Hosts and Commonweal contributors Nick Tabor and Daniel Steinmetz-Jenkins chat with Meghan O’Gieblyn, author of God, Human, Animal, Machine, about her new memoir, Will and Attention. O’Gieblyn describes secretly attending Catholic Mass years after leaving the Evangelical faith of her youth, the conversation with a priest that ended her path toward conversion, and the relapse that broke eleven years of sobriety. Together, they explore Simone Weil’s counsel to cure our faults “by attention and not by will,” Augustine’s two warring wills, and what Weil’s warnings about thoughtless, mechanized work suggest about life with AI.