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My own presidential polling

As one of the assignments in my moral issues class this semester, students have been asked to join groups that will research the policy positions of presidential candidates on the various issues we are taking up, e.g., stem cell research and abortion. I waited until after Super Tuesday to ask students to choose the candidates they wanted to research. Yesterday they had to indicate a first and second choice. Not a single student listed Mitt Romney as a first or second choice. (They clearly anticipated his withdrawal from the race.) Here are the rest of the results.Obama First choice 14; Second choice 3Clinton First choice 1; Second choice 7Huckabee First choice 2; Second choice 4McCain First choice 3; Second choice 6Obviously, this is neither a large nor representative sample, but I think it is interesting nonetheless. Historically, our students have tended to be pretty conservative and the Young Republican group on campus has almost always been more active than the Young Democrats.I wonder what others are finding with traditional college-age students.

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Your experience rings true for me, because while I was getting my Ph.D., I was a TA at a Big Ten university. Obama is very popular there too.Right now, I'm between jobs, teaching at a community college to make ends meet. I teach introductory physics for students who mostly hope to transfer to four-year universities for the last two years. The students are a little bit older. Many of the men and a few of the women are military veterans. A lot of the women have children. This is the southwest, so there are no African-Americans but quite a lot of Mexican-Americans. Not immigrants, most are third/fourth/fifth or so generation American.They do NOT support Obama. They think he's all talk. The women like Hillary, because she has a plan to get their kids healthcare, a plan to make sure their mothers' Social Security will keep coming, a plan to make their kids' schools better, and a plan to help them pay for those two years at the university. Obama has what? He's going to "reach out", "bring us together" and "tell you his story." He's also, the consensus here goes, too weak to be CinC in wartime. The men think he's a girly-man. They like McCain.Your students probably think health care reform is "booooring!" They think the Presidency is a TV show and they want the handsome actor to play the President. (Those three who support McCain, are they the only veterans in the class?) Spoiled narcissistic children supporting the spoiled narcissistic child-candidate. I'm glad there's more to America's future than pampered private-school philosophy students. Maybe in an ethics class they could be introduced to the novel idea "stop admiring yourself in the mirror and think about the people who need help?"For what it's worth, virtually all of my students are weekly church-attenders.

Paul, here is an article you might ask your students to assess. Now that would be an education.http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html

Paul: FYI: Theres a reply (Which Womanhood, by Laura Flanders), in The Nation, to the article referred to by Bill Mazzella:http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=280397

It is a reply but not an answer. It is always easy to take shots at Hillary because she has an extensive record compared to Baracks thin resume. Flanders article does not compare in depth to Morgan's. People forget that the Stop Hillary Movement finally found a candidate in Obama. But the motives were suspect.Those of you who are pro-Obama should at least to have the honesty to admit that there is a double standard when it comes to Obama and Hillary. Read Robin Morgan again. She hits all cylinders.

I thought this thread was about how college students see the race - I think we know where you stand, Bill.Cathy, what's your take on the students at ND?And the other professors here as well?

Thanks Bill and Gene for the references to the point/counterpoint. I had not seen either.

With all due respect, Bob, we know how everyone stands, more or less. It is a constant give and take which dialogue is. I gave a suggestion to Paul on how important the gender issue is in this campaign and how a discussion is incomplete without it. You, of course, are entitled to your opinion too.What is your comment on what Robin Morgan wrote?

An opinion on media coverage of the alpha males offensive before Super Tuesday. By a journalism professor from Boston University. http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/3484/context/archive

This morning's NPR Weekend Edition had a fine piece on the oversimplification that pollsters, analysts and (might I suggest) bloggers do in characterizing voters