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		<title>By: Carolyn Disco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Disco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the northeast power outage that lasted from late Wednesday night until late this afternoon meant no dotCommonweal in the interim. Silence (its own blessing nonetheless), reading by flashlight, wearing a coat and winter hat to bed early on, cooking in an ancient fondue pot with sterno, candles, prayer and gratitude for a mini generator...an experience to be sure.

Some thoughts on

1) Doubt 

- but, but most of the abusing priests grew up and were trained pre-Vatican II. 

I also have a slight problem with the premise of the play that there is justifiable doubt about the existence of abuse. Understandably you do not want cardboard caricatures, but the focus may insinuate doubt in general about sexual assault. I gather the question is not answered definitively in the film, and I wish it were. Insinuations of maybe, maybe not, fail to honor reality. Maybe I am too literal, but what does a survivor come away with?

There is an eerie resemblance to reality in Chicago where Rev. Daniel McCormack, now in prison, gave an African American mother tuition money while he was abusing her son. His mother was not interested in pursuing the matter, despite the principal&#039;s profound suspicions which she reported to the archdiocesan school board in vain. Read the principal’s report at 
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/depo/2008_01_30_Cardinal_Francis_George/2008_01_30_Cardinal_Francis_George_arch_Exhibit_111_A.pdf . p. 3 of 5

I hope to see the movie, while being mindful of what my research over the years found to be true.

2) SOL reform 

– essential to protect children and give access to justice. Bishops purposely ran out statutes to prohibit prosecution and liability (clever tactic when distressed parents came forward – tie them up in talks/counseling etc. until deadlines pass – then, oops you’re too late); likewise, violate the reporting law, but keep the secrets long enough to evade redress. So, when windows legislation comes along, it is ironic to see such strategies fail.

When a window opened up in CA, 300 additional perpetrators were identified, with thousands of pages of secret church documents exposed or soon to be released (if Mahony et al abide by settlements). Since priests can have long histories of abuse, children are safer when identification is made. 

Once the criminal SOL has expired, the only way for a survivor to publicly name his or her perpetrator is to file a civil action that allows media to name that person. The window opened that avenue, and brought some measure of treatment, healing and justice to hundreds of survivors. 

Bishops work much harder to prevent abuse, and sit up straighter when their pocketbooks are on the line. Some do not oppose extension of the criminal SOL (no money is at stake), but oppose civil SOL extension. Why should accountability be timed to apply in one case but not the other? Either justice is due, or it isn&#039;t.

When informed about a young man dying of AIDS who had been molested around 5 or 6, a NH bishop was interested only in whether the SOL had passed. No reaching out, just liability concerns. Often a bishop (McCormack of course included) would inquire if a victim was taking “a litigious stance” when reporting to the church. I do not believe such cynical responses deserve legal immunity, especially when artificial time limits pertain, with no relation to actual abuse recovery patterns. 

Then, there is George himself. Guilty as sin by his own admission, and free as a bird for failing to report. He beat the clock since 2003 (think that was the date), but there may be a legal remedy if I read another statute correctly. I am not a lawyer but wrote about his case at http://votf.org/vineyard/Nov19_2008/survivor.html and if any legal minds wish to review, please do so. 

I find too often that courts are not about a search for the truth or justice, but an adversary proceeding where tying up an opponent in expensive Bleak House maneuvers is the game. That hard assessment is built on following survivors’ cases since 2002, and attending a law school conference on how to pursue actions against diocesan scorched earth tactics. 

Watch Marci Hamilton speak at Princeton on SOL when her book “Justice Denied: What America Must Do to Protect Its Children” was published last May. It’s 70 minutes long but Marci’s talk and the Q&amp;A answer many questions.

http://www.booktv.org/watch.aspx?ProgramId=FV-9480</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the northeast power outage that lasted from late Wednesday night until late this afternoon meant no dotCommonweal in the interim. Silence (its own blessing nonetheless), reading by flashlight, wearing a coat and winter hat to bed early on, cooking in an ancient fondue pot with sterno, candles, prayer and gratitude for a mini generator&#8230;an experience to be sure.</p>
<p>Some thoughts on</p>
<p>1) Doubt </p>
<p>- but, but most of the abusing priests grew up and were trained pre-Vatican II. </p>
<p>I also have a slight problem with the premise of the play that there is justifiable doubt about the existence of abuse. Understandably you do not want cardboard caricatures, but the focus may insinuate doubt in general about sexual assault. I gather the question is not answered definitively in the film, and I wish it were. Insinuations of maybe, maybe not, fail to honor reality. Maybe I am too literal, but what does a survivor come away with?</p>
<p>There is an eerie resemblance to reality in Chicago where Rev. Daniel McCormack, now in prison, gave an African American mother tuition money while he was abusing her son. His mother was not interested in pursuing the matter, despite the principal&#8217;s profound suspicions which she reported to the archdiocesan school board in vain. Read the principal’s report at<br />
<a href="http://www.bishop-accountability.org/depo/2008_01_30_Cardinal_Francis_George/2008_01_30_Cardinal_Francis_George_arch_Exhibit_111_A.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bishop-accountability.org/depo/2008_01_30_Cardinal_Francis_George/2008_01_30_Cardinal_Francis_George_arch_Exhibit_111_A.pdf</a> . p. 3 of 5</p>
<p>I hope to see the movie, while being mindful of what my research over the years found to be true.</p>
<p>2) SOL reform </p>
<p>– essential to protect children and give access to justice. Bishops purposely ran out statutes to prohibit prosecution and liability (clever tactic when distressed parents came forward – tie them up in talks/counseling etc. until deadlines pass – then, oops you’re too late); likewise, violate the reporting law, but keep the secrets long enough to evade redress. So, when windows legislation comes along, it is ironic to see such strategies fail.</p>
<p>When a window opened up in CA, 300 additional perpetrators were identified, with thousands of pages of secret church documents exposed or soon to be released (if Mahony et al abide by settlements). Since priests can have long histories of abuse, children are safer when identification is made. </p>
<p>Once the criminal SOL has expired, the only way for a survivor to publicly name his or her perpetrator is to file a civil action that allows media to name that person. The window opened that avenue, and brought some measure of treatment, healing and justice to hundreds of survivors. </p>
<p>Bishops work much harder to prevent abuse, and sit up straighter when their pocketbooks are on the line. Some do not oppose extension of the criminal SOL (no money is at stake), but oppose civil SOL extension. Why should accountability be timed to apply in one case but not the other? Either justice is due, or it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>When informed about a young man dying of AIDS who had been molested around 5 or 6, a NH bishop was interested only in whether the SOL had passed. No reaching out, just liability concerns. Often a bishop (McCormack of course included) would inquire if a victim was taking “a litigious stance” when reporting to the church. I do not believe such cynical responses deserve legal immunity, especially when artificial time limits pertain, with no relation to actual abuse recovery patterns. </p>
<p>Then, there is George himself. Guilty as sin by his own admission, and free as a bird for failing to report. He beat the clock since 2003 (think that was the date), but there may be a legal remedy if I read another statute correctly. I am not a lawyer but wrote about his case at <a href="http://votf.org/vineyard/Nov19_2008/survivor.html" rel="nofollow">http://votf.org/vineyard/Nov19_2008/survivor.html</a> and if any legal minds wish to review, please do so. </p>
<p>I find too often that courts are not about a search for the truth or justice, but an adversary proceeding where tying up an opponent in expensive Bleak House maneuvers is the game. That hard assessment is built on following survivors’ cases since 2002, and attending a law school conference on how to pursue actions against diocesan scorched earth tactics. </p>
<p>Watch Marci Hamilton speak at Princeton on SOL when her book “Justice Denied: What America Must Do to Protect Its Children” was published last May. It’s 70 minutes long but Marci’s talk and the Q&amp;A answer many questions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.booktv.org/watch.aspx?ProgramId=FV-9480" rel="nofollow">http://www.booktv.org/watch.aspx?ProgramId=FV-9480</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nunz</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-35057</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Nunz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess our feelings about the movie are shaped to some degree about how we feel about dealin gwith change and uncertainty.
The review in America by Fr. Tueth is reall yworth a read whether you agree or not.
But the questions the movie raise will continue to underline some of the discussions we hav ehere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess our feelings about the movie are shaped to some degree about how we feel about dealin gwith change and uncertainty.<br />
The review in America by Fr. Tueth is reall yworth a read whether you agree or not.<br />
But the questions the movie raise will continue to underline some of the discussions we hav ehere.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Gallicho</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-35028</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Gallicho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad he didn&#039;t write an actual review. My favorite movie critic gave the film four stars (I wouldn&#039;t):

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081210/REVIEWS/812109991</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad he didn&#8217;t write an actual review. My favorite movie critic gave the film four stars (I wouldn&#8217;t):</p>
<p><a href="http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081210/REVIEWS/812109991" rel="nofollow">http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081210/REVIEWS/812109991</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Imbelli</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-35027</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Imbelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony Lane is one of the doubtful:
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/12/15/081215crci_cinema_lane?currentPage=2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony Lane is one of the doubtful:<br />
<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/12/15/081215crci_cinema_lane?currentPage=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/12/15/081215crci_cinema_lane?currentPage=2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nunz</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-35020</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Nunz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More reviews of Doubt linked at Abuse Tracker this morning.
Much of this thread has been about Judge Merz&#039;s (awful, I think, ) op-ed and the SOL question.
Maybe a thread on the real theme of Doubt - uncertainty and certainty - should get a thread of its own - maybe using Dignitatis Personae  as an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More reviews of Doubt linked at Abuse Tracker this morning.<br />
Much of this thread has been about Judge Merz&#8217;s (awful, I think, ) op-ed and the SOL question.<br />
Maybe a thread on the real theme of Doubt &#8211; uncertainty and certainty &#8211; should get a thread of its own &#8211; maybe using Dignitatis Personae  as an example.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Gallicho</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-35019</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Gallicho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone who&#039;s still reading, I saw the film last night--the Globe review is, in my view, largely mistaken. &#039;Doubt&#039; is worth seeing. It&#039;s overdirected at points, but the quality of the material is such that those hiccups can be overlooked. More reviews here: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009492-doubt/

I think this one gets it right: http://www.avclub.com/content/cinema/doubt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone who&#8217;s still reading, I saw the film last night&#8211;the Globe review is, in my view, largely mistaken. &#8216;Doubt&#8217; is worth seeing. It&#8217;s overdirected at points, but the quality of the material is such that those hiccups can be overlooked. More reviews here: <a href="http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009492-doubt/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009492-doubt/</a></p>
<p>I think this one gets it right: <a href="http://www.avclub.com/content/cinema/doubt" rel="nofollow">http://www.avclub.com/content/cinema/doubt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nunz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Nunz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, since the Merz comments were linked to the opening of the movie &quot;Doubt,&quot; -a movie opening to mixed reviews it seems - one might nevertheless find the interview with author John Patrick Shanley at NPR this morning interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, since the Merz comments were linked to the opening of the movie &#8220;Doubt,&#8221; -a movie opening to mixed reviews it seems &#8211; one might nevertheless find the interview with author John Patrick Shanley at NPR this morning interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nunz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Nunz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill D. beat me to it.
Prof. Hamilton makes a compelling case for SOL repells in these matters - the common good and the safety of children.
The Law exists to protect the community and its system is to aim to ensure that,
Tp categorize atempts, any or all, to change SOL in criminal matters as &quot;unjust&quot; is gratuitous.
Briefly in my own experienc ewith the courts and such matters, we have increasingly gained knowledge in terms of both offense, offender and handling of offender.
My experience as well says we need to move forward into best practices for what we know today. Hence the need for SOL change in such matters.
As to Judge Merz and to any apologist he has, there is already strong reaction against him not only here but in the victim community. I think that will grow and undermine further credibility in the Bishops&#039; creature of the Review Board, that, in the end, essentially answers to the Bishops, but, I think less to the church!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill D. beat me to it.<br />
Prof. Hamilton makes a compelling case for SOL repells in these matters &#8211; the common good and the safety of children.<br />
The Law exists to protect the community and its system is to aim to ensure that,<br />
Tp categorize atempts, any or all, to change SOL in criminal matters as &#8220;unjust&#8221; is gratuitous.<br />
Briefly in my own experienc ewith the courts and such matters, we have increasingly gained knowledge in terms of both offense, offender and handling of offender.<br />
My experience as well says we need to move forward into best practices for what we know today. Hence the need for SOL change in such matters.<br />
As to Judge Merz and to any apologist he has, there is already strong reaction against him not only here but in the victim community. I think that will grow and undermine further credibility in the Bishops&#8217; creature of the Review Board, that, in the end, essentially answers to the Bishops, but, I think less to the church!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pauwels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Pauwels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As someone involved in behavioral health for the last 25 years, SOLs are outdated and fly in the face of documented studies, experience, and treatment of those who have been sexually abused. This is a larger legal issue involving states, school districts, hospitals, etc. - Folks are advocating that the SOL be narrowly changed or that a window be opened for a period of time so that some type of recourse is available to those who have been hurt. I would also support financial/tort limitations in terms of revising SOLs.&quot;

I do understand, Bill, and agree that there may be something to capping or limiting awards in some way (although I see it as kind of a mixed bag).  I also agree that the limits in some SOLs are way too short, and for that reason would support extending them *for cases of abuse that occur after the law has been changed*.  

The issue of retroactively opening a window is a separate issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As someone involved in behavioral health for the last 25 years, SOLs are outdated and fly in the face of documented studies, experience, and treatment of those who have been sexually abused. This is a larger legal issue involving states, school districts, hospitals, etc. &#8211; Folks are advocating that the SOL be narrowly changed or that a window be opened for a period of time so that some type of recourse is available to those who have been hurt. I would also support financial/tort limitations in terms of revising SOLs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do understand, Bill, and agree that there may be something to capping or limiting awards in some way (although I see it as kind of a mixed bag).  I also agree that the limits in some SOLs are way too short, and for that reason would support extending them *for cases of abuse that occur after the law has been changed*.  </p>
<p>The issue of retroactively opening a window is a separate issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pauwels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Pauwels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can we afford that sort of naivete in the head of the National Review Board?&quot;

Your characterization may well be right, Susan.  On the other hand, the judge may be speaking from his personal experience - in the course of fulfilling his obligations, he may see genuine reasons for a sort of muted optimism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can we afford that sort of naivete in the head of the National Review Board?&#8221;</p>
<p>Your characterization may well be right, Susan.  On the other hand, the judge may be speaking from his personal experience &#8211; in the course of fulfilling his obligations, he may see genuine reasons for a sort of muted optimism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pauwels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Pauwels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are good reasons for statutes of limitations, and to change them to go after a specific group does strike me as unjust.&quot;

Yes, I agree.

&quot;Of course, I don’t believe for a minute that the Church is fighting changes for the sake of justice. It’s fighting the changes so that no more priests will be exposed to the laws.&quot;

I think the institutional church has a varity of motives.  Chief among them, in my view, is that bishops and other diocesan leaders have an important obligation to be responsible stewards of the financial assets entrusted to their care.  Clearly, if new windows of liability were opened up, the results for dioceses would be financially catastrophic.  I can understand that a lot of folks don&#039;t particularly care, or think that interests of justice or vengeance trump such considerations.  But the hard fact is, these competing interests are all legitimate and need to be balanced.

I&#039;d like to think that church leaders also do have a genuine concern about the integrity of our system of justice, and might oppose setting aside statute of limitations on principle, even if they didn&#039;t have a pressing interest in the outcome.

Frankly, I&#039;d be surprised if, at this point, any bishop is interested in covering up for any abusive priests (or any other cleric or employee).  They just want them to go away, preferably without any liability or hassle.

 &quot; suppose those fighting eliminate the statutes of limitations may be doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, but I still think they are wrong. &quot;

Well put. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are good reasons for statutes of limitations, and to change them to go after a specific group does strike me as unjust.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I agree.</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course, I don’t believe for a minute that the Church is fighting changes for the sake of justice. It’s fighting the changes so that no more priests will be exposed to the laws.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the institutional church has a varity of motives.  Chief among them, in my view, is that bishops and other diocesan leaders have an important obligation to be responsible stewards of the financial assets entrusted to their care.  Clearly, if new windows of liability were opened up, the results for dioceses would be financially catastrophic.  I can understand that a lot of folks don&#8217;t particularly care, or think that interests of justice or vengeance trump such considerations.  But the hard fact is, these competing interests are all legitimate and need to be balanced.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that church leaders also do have a genuine concern about the integrity of our system of justice, and might oppose setting aside statute of limitations on principle, even if they didn&#8217;t have a pressing interest in the outcome.</p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;d be surprised if, at this point, any bishop is interested in covering up for any abusive priests (or any other cleric or employee).  They just want them to go away, preferably without any liability or hassle.</p>
<p> &#8221; suppose those fighting eliminate the statutes of limitations may be doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, but I still think they are wrong. &#8221;</p>
<p>Well put. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill deHaas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill deHaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim and David - there is a wealth of knowledge about changing the SOLs - any recent articles or books by Marci Hamilton expresses the legal reasons for making this change.

As someone involved in behavioral health for the last 25 years, SOLs are outdated and fly in the face of documented studies, experience, and treatment of those who have been sexually abused.  This is a larger legal issue involving states, school districts, hospitals, etc. - Folks are advocating that the SOL be narrowly changed or that a window be opened for a period of time so that some type of recourse is available to those who have been hurt.  I would also support financial/tort limitations in terms of revising SOLs.

My point is not legal - what is the best pastoral approach?  Defending, reinforcing SOLs is not my idea of bishops acting pastorally.

Carolyn - you have more expertise in this area.  Can you enlighten us on this issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim and David &#8211; there is a wealth of knowledge about changing the SOLs &#8211; any recent articles or books by Marci Hamilton expresses the legal reasons for making this change.</p>
<p>As someone involved in behavioral health for the last 25 years, SOLs are outdated and fly in the face of documented studies, experience, and treatment of those who have been sexually abused.  This is a larger legal issue involving states, school districts, hospitals, etc. &#8211; Folks are advocating that the SOL be narrowly changed or that a window be opened for a period of time so that some type of recourse is available to those who have been hurt.  I would also support financial/tort limitations in terms of revising SOLs.</p>
<p>My point is not legal &#8211; what is the best pastoral approach?  Defending, reinforcing SOLs is not my idea of bishops acting pastorally.</p>
<p>Carolyn &#8211; you have more expertise in this area.  Can you enlighten us on this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Fullam</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-34982</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Fullam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Law&#039;s episcopal co-conspirators were promoted. Not only did they not resign, nor seem to acknowledge their role in causing the harm (see McCormack item above,)  they were promoted to their own dioceses. Promoted. That message is clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Law&#8217;s episcopal co-conspirators were promoted. Not only did they not resign, nor seem to acknowledge their role in causing the harm (see McCormack item above,)  they were promoted to their own dioceses. Promoted. That message is clear.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-34968</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ANY attempt to repeal statutes of limitations in order to expose criminals retroactively to criminal liability is unjust, Bill, regardless of the category or nature of the crime. &lt;/i&gt;

Jim,

I am interesting that somebody else said this, because it is what I was thinking, and I thought that for once I would just remain silent.

 There are good reasons for statutes of limitations, and to change them to go after a specific group does strike me as unjust. Of course, I don&#039;t believe for a minute that the Church is fighting changes for the sake of justice. It&#039;s fighting the changes so that no more priests will be exposed to the laws. So the Church may be doing the right thing, but for the wrong reason. I suppose those fighting eliminate the statutes of limitations may be doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, but I still think they are wrong. 

Evidence disappears over time, and human memories are faulty. Recollections of what happened years ago can be faulty.  There are stories in my family (not involving child abuse!) that everyone remembers differently. Even perceptions of what happened ten minutes ago can differ from one person to another. It&#039;s clear that way too many people (and especially bishops) behaved very badly, and I don&#039;t blame people for being very angry about it. But changing statutes of limitation is very misguided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ANY attempt to repeal statutes of limitations in order to expose criminals retroactively to criminal liability is unjust, Bill, regardless of the category or nature of the crime. </i></p>
<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I am interesting that somebody else said this, because it is what I was thinking, and I thought that for once I would just remain silent.</p>
<p> There are good reasons for statutes of limitations, and to change them to go after a specific group does strike me as unjust. Of course, I don&#8217;t believe for a minute that the Church is fighting changes for the sake of justice. It&#8217;s fighting the changes so that no more priests will be exposed to the laws. So the Church may be doing the right thing, but for the wrong reason. I suppose those fighting eliminate the statutes of limitations may be doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, but I still think they are wrong. </p>
<p>Evidence disappears over time, and human memories are faulty. Recollections of what happened years ago can be faulty.  There are stories in my family (not involving child abuse!) that everyone remembers differently. Even perceptions of what happened ten minutes ago can differ from one person to another. It&#8217;s clear that way too many people (and especially bishops) behaved very badly, and I don&#8217;t blame people for being very angry about it. But changing statutes of limitation is very misguided.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pauwels</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=2588&#038;cpage=1#comment-34966</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Pauwels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sorry, Jim. You will have to demonstrate to me where someone has “UNJUSTLY” tried to appeal statutes of limitations. &quot;

ANY attempt to repeal statutes of limitations in order to expose criminals retroactively to criminal liability is unjust, Bill, regardless of the category or nature of the crime.  No matter how deeply we care about the victim or how outraged we are about individual circumstances, we can&#039;t compromise important principles of our legal system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sorry, Jim. You will have to demonstrate to me where someone has “UNJUSTLY” tried to appeal statutes of limitations. &#8221;</p>
<p>ANY attempt to repeal statutes of limitations in order to expose criminals retroactively to criminal liability is unjust, Bill, regardless of the category or nature of the crime.  No matter how deeply we care about the victim or how outraged we are about individual circumstances, we can&#8217;t compromise important principles of our legal system.</p>
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