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		<title>Comment on Elsewhere by Matthew Boudway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Boudway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Konczal, Frase, and Milton Friedman, among many others.</description>
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		<title>Comment on New Missal Survey Shows Most Priests Dissatisfied by Ann Olivier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 23:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During Pope Benedict XVI&#039;s papacy the liturgy of the main part of the Mass of one of the Middle Eastern churches (I&#039;ve forgotten its name) was approved in spite of the fact that in that liturgy in that part of the Mass no words of any verbal language are spoken at all -- it is silent.  I guess that puts Latin in its place :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During Pope Benedict XVI&#8217;s papacy the liturgy of the main part of the Mass of one of the Middle Eastern churches (I&#8217;ve forgotten its name) was approved in spite of the fact that in that liturgy in that part of the Mass no words of any verbal language are spoken at all &#8212; it is silent.  I guess that puts Latin in its place :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Billable Hours and Ordinary Time: An Empirical Study by Cathleen Kaveny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathleen Kaveny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 22:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, I&#039;m not so sure there was a lot of unity, even in the original response. 

EJ Dionne and MS Winters might have thought there was terrible overreaching in principle.  I did not. Notre Dame and Steubenville sued Obama&#039;s administration. But many Catholic institutions did NOT sue Obama.  I think a lot of Catholics  did not think the opposition to the mandate was justified, even from the beginning.  They may not have spoken up. But that didn&#039;t mean they agreed.  And many women--including many Catholic women responded to the &quot;war on women&quot; meme. 

I think it would be interesting to ask the leadership of Catholic institutions about what they would do about coverage, apart from the pressure from the Church, on the one hand, and the government, on the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I&#8217;m not so sure there was a lot of unity, even in the original response. </p>
<p>EJ Dionne and MS Winters might have thought there was terrible overreaching in principle.  I did not. Notre Dame and Steubenville sued Obama&#8217;s administration. But many Catholic institutions did NOT sue Obama.  I think a lot of Catholics  did not think the opposition to the mandate was justified, even from the beginning.  They may not have spoken up. But that didn&#8217;t mean they agreed.  And many women&#8211;including many Catholic women responded to the &#8220;war on women&#8221; meme. </p>
<p>I think it would be interesting to ask the leadership of Catholic institutions about what they would do about coverage, apart from the pressure from the Church, on the one hand, and the government, on the other.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How fortunate the Philippine Church is! by Cheap Oakley Rada Path</title>
		<link>http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=15536&#038;cpage=1#comment-164313</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheap Oakley Rada Path</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Cheap Oakley Rada Path...&lt;/strong&gt;

No one can reject from the feature of this video posted at this site, nice job, keep it all the time....</description>
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<p>No one can reject from the feature of this video posted at this site, nice job, keep it all the time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The journey of America&#8217;s newest, oldest saint by Luke Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add a cheer for the John Paul II&#039;s recognition of so many saints from so many parts of the Church whose saints had not previously been recognized by the Vatican.  By recognizing the sanctity of saints like Kateri, Frances and Elizabeth (as well as saints like Henriette, Augustus and Dorothy), the Church has a concrete way of getting all the &quot;tribes&quot; of Catholicism to recognize the boundless depth and breadth of the Spirit&#039;s life among us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add a cheer for the John Paul II&#8217;s recognition of so many saints from so many parts of the Church whose saints had not previously been recognized by the Vatican.  By recognizing the sanctity of saints like Kateri, Frances and Elizabeth (as well as saints like Henriette, Augustus and Dorothy), the Church has a concrete way of getting all the &#8220;tribes&#8221; of Catholicism to recognize the boundless depth and breadth of the Spirit&#8217;s life among us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Missal Survey Shows Most Priests Dissatisfied by Robert Imbelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Imbelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. D.,

I think we are understanding one another. But I presume you meant to write &quot;shouldn&#039;t&quot; in the second sentence above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. D.,</p>
<p>I think we are understanding one another. But I presume you meant to write &#8220;shouldn&#8217;t&#8221; in the second sentence above.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Missal Survey Shows Most Priests Dissatisfied by Bernard Dauenhauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Dauenhauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fr. Imbelli, Your last paragraph captures my point. Using whatever resources available, including Latin liturgical texts, why should the USCCB, or some other appropriate agency, appoint a committee of competent liturgical scholars to produce, in English, a set of liturgical texts for the American Catholic use? The committee would have much to learn from relevant predecessor texts, but would not be charged with confining itself to making translations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fr. Imbelli, Your last paragraph captures my point. Using whatever resources available, including Latin liturgical texts, why should the USCCB, or some other appropriate agency, appoint a committee of competent liturgical scholars to produce, in English, a set of liturgical texts for the American Catholic use? The committee would have much to learn from relevant predecessor texts, but would not be charged with confining itself to making translations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The journey of America&#8217;s newest, oldest saint by George D</title>
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		<dc:creator>George D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps so yes it should be plural First Nations or First Nation people or communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps so yes it should be plural First Nations or First Nation people or communities.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The journey of America&#8217;s newest, oldest saint by George D</title>
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		<dc:creator>George D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bender

All of those tribes of North American constituted &quot;First Nations&quot;. What the term first nation implies is that those tribes had legal possession of the land. It could only &lt;i&gt;legally&lt;/i&gt; be claimed by way of public treaty. This was outlined specifically by King George in the Royal Proclamation of 1763 after the seven year war.

http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Canada/English/PreConfederation/rp_1763.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;And whereas it is just and reasonable, and essential to our Interest, and the Security of our Colonies, that the &lt;b&gt;several Nations&lt;/b&gt; or Tribes of Indians with whom We are connected, and who live under our Protection, should not be molested or disturbed in the Possession of such Parts of Our Dominions and Territories as, not having been ceded to or purchased by Us, are reserved to them, or any of them, as their Hunting Grounds -- We do therefore, with the Advice of our Privy Council, declare it to be our Royal Will and Pleasure, that no Governor or Commander in Chief in any of our Colonies of Quebec, East Florida. or West Florida, do presume, upon any Pretence whatever, to grant Warrants of Survey, or pass any Patents for Lands beyond the Bounds of their respective Governments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And, on the point of those nation to nation treaties:

&lt;blockquote&gt;if at any Time any of the Said Indians should be inclined to dispose of the said Lands, the same shall be Purchased only for Us, in our Name, at some public Meeting or Assembly of the said Indians, to be held for that Purpose by the Governor or Commander in Chief of our Colony respectively within which they shall lie: and in case they shall lie within the limits of any Proprietary Government, they shall be purchased only for the Use and in the name of such Proprietaries, conformable to such Directions and Instructions as We or they shall think proper to give for that Purpose&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In Canada, the Royal Proclamation is still valid and enshrined in the constitution and charter of rights. In the USA, after the revolution, they set up some other kind of administration but the same principle (I think) applied.

Treaties were supposed to apply &quot;as long as the sun shines, the grass grows, and the rivers flow&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bender</p>
<p>All of those tribes of North American constituted &#8220;First Nations&#8221;. What the term first nation implies is that those tribes had legal possession of the land. It could only <i>legally</i> be claimed by way of public treaty. This was outlined specifically by King George in the Royal Proclamation of 1763 after the seven year war.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Canada/English/PreConfederation/rp_1763.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Canada/English/PreConfederation/rp_1763.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>And whereas it is just and reasonable, and essential to our Interest, and the Security of our Colonies, that the <b>several Nations</b> or Tribes of Indians with whom We are connected, and who live under our Protection, should not be molested or disturbed in the Possession of such Parts of Our Dominions and Territories as, not having been ceded to or purchased by Us, are reserved to them, or any of them, as their Hunting Grounds &#8212; We do therefore, with the Advice of our Privy Council, declare it to be our Royal Will and Pleasure, that no Governor or Commander in Chief in any of our Colonies of Quebec, East Florida. or West Florida, do presume, upon any Pretence whatever, to grant Warrants of Survey, or pass any Patents for Lands beyond the Bounds of their respective Governments.</p></blockquote>
<p>And, on the point of those nation to nation treaties:</p>
<blockquote><p>if at any Time any of the Said Indians should be inclined to dispose of the said Lands, the same shall be Purchased only for Us, in our Name, at some public Meeting or Assembly of the said Indians, to be held for that Purpose by the Governor or Commander in Chief of our Colony respectively within which they shall lie: and in case they shall lie within the limits of any Proprietary Government, they shall be purchased only for the Use and in the name of such Proprietaries, conformable to such Directions and Instructions as We or they shall think proper to give for that Purpose</p></blockquote>
<p>In Canada, the Royal Proclamation is still valid and enshrined in the constitution and charter of rights. In the USA, after the revolution, they set up some other kind of administration but the same principle (I think) applied.</p>
<p>Treaties were supposed to apply &#8220;as long as the sun shines, the grass grows, and the rivers flow&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Elsewhere by Crystal Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce,

Yes, what Luke said  :)

It&#039;s not just a subculture thing to support marriage equality.  But speaking of subcultures, one that does have a majority support for SSM is Catholicism ...  http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/majority-catholics-support-gay-marriage/story?id=18684305#.UZ5_L4Li7wg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,</p>
<p>Yes, what Luke said  :)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just a subculture thing to support marriage equality.  But speaking of subcultures, one that does have a majority support for SSM is Catholicism &#8230;  <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/majority-catholics-support-gay-marriage/story?id=18684305#.UZ5_L4Li7wg" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/majority-catholics-support-gay-marriage/story?id=18684305#.UZ5_L4Li7wg</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cammino concludes by louis vuitton coin pouch</title>
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		<dc:creator>louis vuitton coin pouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;louis vuitton coin pouch...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>louis vuitton coin pouch&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Une réponse aussi aux quelque louis vuitton coin pouch techniciens du spectacle qui avaient accueilli par des sifflets les invités du thé?tre du Ch?telet, les listes conduites par chacun des quatre socialistes se tiendraient dans un maillot de foot ove&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Billable Hours and Ordinary Time: An Empirical Study by Bill Mazzella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Mazzella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The culture war Christian kills others for the faith. Whereas the authentic Christian is willing to die for the faith. The culture war Christian says that the poor are at fault for their poverty. 
The authentic Christian embraces poverty as the surest avenue to paradise. Francis of Assisi embraced poverty because he saw how wars were over greed and domination by selfish people. The culture war Christians are watchful that Pope Francis embrace the domination issues. Whereas authentic Christians embrace Francis as one who gives an example of following Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The culture war Christian kills others for the faith. Whereas the authentic Christian is willing to die for the faith. The culture war Christian says that the poor are at fault for their poverty.<br />
The authentic Christian embraces poverty as the surest avenue to paradise. Francis of Assisi embraced poverty because he saw how wars were over greed and domination by selfish people. The culture war Christians are watchful that Pope Francis embrace the domination issues. Whereas authentic Christians embrace Francis as one who gives an example of following Jesus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The journey of America&#8217;s newest, oldest saint by Bender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Strictly speaking, Kateri is not American or Canadian, but First Nation&lt;/i&gt; 

The Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca nations would be quite surprised to hear that the Mohawks were the &quot;First Nation,&quot; not to mention the Huron, Tuscarora, all the various Algonquian-speaking nations, and many more.

The indigenous inhabitants of North America were and are not a single nation or a single people, but many different nations.  Treating them all as if they are the same is as inappropriatae as treating them as inherently inferior to the white man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Strictly speaking, Kateri is not American or Canadian, but First Nation</i> </p>
<p>The Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca nations would be quite surprised to hear that the Mohawks were the &#8220;First Nation,&#8221; not to mention the Huron, Tuscarora, all the various Algonquian-speaking nations, and many more.</p>
<p>The indigenous inhabitants of North America were and are not a single nation or a single people, but many different nations.  Treating them all as if they are the same is as inappropriatae as treating them as inherently inferior to the white man.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Elsewhere by Jim Pauwels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Pauwels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If that dangerous ideological folly is respectable, then I suggest we had better not worry so much about respectability, since it seems to amount to little more than keeping your mouth clean. &quot;

Absolutely.

Oh, sorry, I thought this was in reference to Konczal and Frase and a Universal Basic Income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If that dangerous ideological folly is respectable, then I suggest we had better not worry so much about respectability, since it seems to amount to little more than keeping your mouth clean. &#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely.</p>
<p>Oh, sorry, I thought this was in reference to Konczal and Frase and a Universal Basic Income.</p>
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